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« on: April 14, 2007, 11:03:27 PM »
Barrie
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Webmaster has fixed the diary - a big thank you Matt. But there is more to this diary than you may have first have thought.

Webmaster explains that the reason it wouldn't work was:

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....... there were lots of recurring diary entries with an end date more than ten years in the future. It seems the diary software doesn't like this and returns an error. So setting slightly more realistic end dates solved the problem.

There's a pearl of wisdom in here. If a machine can spot that planning an event that repeats itself more than ten years into the future is folly, how much more should intelligent human beings have the wisdom to set a realistic end date on their precious activities.

The church especially could learn from this. We should not only ask, "When does it start?" but also, "When will this end?" If an end date or time can't be set then perhaps the activity shouldn't be started. 
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2007, 07:20:52 AM »
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The church especially could learn from this. We should not only ask, "When does it start?" but also, "When will this end?" If an end date or time can't be set then perhaps the activity shouldn't be started. 

Hmm - interesting thought.  Not sure I agree.  I think we are called to worship God at all times - does that not include into the future (until such time as he decides to return of course?)  Discuss! Shocked

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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2007, 09:51:08 PM »
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This word of wisdom should definitley be applied to that most sacred of activities, the family shopping trip. I think most projects should have rigidly applied review dates - no excuses for putting them back. I'm not too sure about the worship one, can I  think about that and tell you tomorrow [or maybe Friday .......] A
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2007, 12:33:28 AM »
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The church especially could learn from this. We should not only ask, "When does it start?" but also, "When will this end?" If an end date or time can't be set then perhaps the activity shouldn't be started. 

Hmm - interesting thought.  Not sure I agree.  I think we are called to worship God at all times - does that not include into the future (until such time as he decides to return of course?)  Discuss! Shocked

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Ah well it depends on if you would refer to worship as an activity, if it were an activity then of course it would be inappropriate to set a ten year plan, we don't know what changes may be made that would interrupt with this for we are (thankfully) not God. Personally I believe that worship should be a persons life, therefore it would in theory never end as we will never 'really' die...and of course it is grounded in the one thing that will never change...our God.

Did I make sense there? I'm not sure that I did...well anyway...I think theres something in there lol
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2007, 08:27:41 PM »
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I'm not too sure about the worship one, can I  think about that and tell you tomorrow [or maybe Friday .......] A

You'll notice I missed my own deadline for an answer - had to sort out urgent, unscheduled domestic tasks. How about 'Judgement Day' for an end date? Dont bother telling me I should be aiming beyond that and to infinity, I am focussing on my current mortal body's time frame just now, given the software's inability handle BST this seems realistic ..........

Seriously, there have to be times when the Church is subjected to worldly pressures & constraints  for its own good - otherwise it wont have a clue what 'ordinary'  Grin people go through. Financial and time problems are as good a test of a person as any - some people would be happy with a pay rise full stop, let alone one above inflation and there are circumstances when you do have to abandon your dreams, hobbies, career plans or others where you have to adjust downwards. I'm not trying to be morose Huh or anything... the chances are God is doing plenty with us and around us but that hitting all our goals just isnt what the world is about ...... if things happen too easily, we can get cocky  Roll Eyes and lose sight of the ultimate target

Woz this the sort of thing you had in mind, Barrie?
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2007, 11:58:08 AM »
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I agree with Barrie to some extent - good point, well made!  10 years is too long to be planning anything.  Although I don't necessarily think that anything which doesn't have an end date shouldn't be started, as some things need to be tried to see where they lead, or where God leads us in them - so yes, a review date can be a good option...

I also agree with Mark that we are called to worship at all times  Cheesy  What I would say though, in reponse to his demand to 'Discuss!', is that worship is not something to be planned anyway, it should be natural and spirit led and my experience is that our worship changes naturally as our walk with God changes... if that makes any sense?!

Am new to this malarkey so please excuse any nonsensical pontification!  Huh
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2007, 07:28:05 PM »
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Wise words, Barrie.  I agree Mark that worship is ongoing and will be so even in eternity, but even that (i.e worship) can be subject to review.  I read a recent article in which Matt Redman said he would like to revise some of his songs the wording of which he was now unhappy with.  Think of the many changes that have taken place in the church (generally) in recent years as we have realised that not all our interpretations of the Bible that we followed were as correct as we thought they were (e.g. cessationism v the gifts of the Spirit.)  We all need to make sure we are "keeping in step with the Spirit.
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2007, 02:20:13 PM »
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See what you've started now Barrie.... Grin
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2007, 02:21:59 PM »
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Hmm - do you think worship in eternity really is subject to review?
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2007, 10:48:09 AM »
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Probably not, but service times might be...

One of my youth leaders from the deeply traditional methodist chapel that I grew up in used to say "Even in the Authorised Version it says 'it came to pass' and not 'it came to stay'!"
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